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    October 9, 2012
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>> bill: good morning, everybody. what do you say? it's good to see you today. is tuesday, october 9th. here we are on the "full court press." welcome to the program on current tv, you new morning show on current tv, your new progressive morning show, the only progressive morning show on cable television we'll bring you the news of the day with a
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distinctly left-leaning slant and proud of you. we'll take your calls at 866-55-press. and here are what a lot of people are talking about today. mitt romney with a four-point lead over president obama. now it is just one poll out of many, but it does prove this election is not in the bag yet. it is going to be a close one and democrats have to continue to work their tails off between now and november 6th. 28 days left. but first here we go with today's current news. hi, lisa, good morning. >> hey, bill good morning, everyone. president obama leaves san francisco this morning, and then he heads to columbus, ohio where he is speaking at ohio state university. mitt romney is hosting an event at the koch family farm and
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then heads to a rally. several news outlets are pointing out how similar mitt romney's plan is to president obama's. his goal yesterday was to outline a stark contrast to president obama. as think progress notes there are at least four major areas where romney and the president's plan are nearly identical. one is afghanistan. both plan to transfer power to local security forces by the end of 2014. syria, romney wants to give aid to neighboring states. number 3 is iran where both romney and the president say the country should not have access to nuclear weapons. plus yesterday romney promised to restore aircraft carrier
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groups to the region but we already have one in the gulf. and romney attacked the president for not signing a single agreement in the last four years, but he is wrong. mr. obama has signed agreements with south korea, and panama. we'll be right back. growing up i had a single mother of four and people in the community were so helpful when they didn't even have much themselves. seeing people and their hardships made me want to make a difference in people's lives to give them hope. receiving a masters degree would open the doors for me to get into a management position where i would be able to do more for people.
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♪ >> announcer: broadcasting across the nation, on your radio, and on current tv this is the "bill press show." >> bill: here we go 28 days and counting. time is running out. every day really matters, and today matters, october 9th, tuesday, good to see you today. this is the "full court press," welcome, welcome to the program here on current tv here on your local progressive talk radio
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station, and here this hour only, sadly on sirius fm. this is where we talk about the issues of the day. what is happening. what you want to talk about. and we'll give you a chance to talk about by giving us a call at 866-55-press. that is our toll free number. back here in our studio on capitol hill today, i hope some of you caught the program last night with joy behar. i joined joy behar and then back here to be with you this morning. love joy's program, you can catch it every night at 6:00 and 9:00 pm eastern, 3:00 and 6:00
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pacific. and talking about teams, we got the whole team here -- well that's true. we got two-thirds back today. peter ogburn -- >> three-fourths. >> dan henning. >> hi, there. >> i guess i am a member of the team. >> you. >> talking about, i guess the support team. and monty here filling in for siprion this week. hello, guys. >> hey, hey, hey. >> it's a crappy cold day in washington. >> welcome to winter. we don't have fall. we just go straight to winter. >> that's right. when i got off of the train here, it was 52 degrees. was cold in new york too. >> yeah, i love that nice week of fall we get. >> bill: yeah, what happened to fall.
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and what happens to the nats. >> boy, when a team hits four home runs against you, you have got a hard battle to come back. >> bill: and the cardinals they are powerhouses -- >> well, they are the world series defending champions. >> bill: and we beat them on their turf in the first game. >> was a time it was 5-1 or 5-2, and i'm saying this -- they come back from this all the time. and to their credit they did score a couple of runs but it was way too late. >> bill: on the other hand, keeping alive the dream of an amtrak series -- other people call it the i-95 series or -- >> the beltway series. >> bill: battle of the beltways at any rate we're talking about
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washington and baltimore. the orioles tied it up last night. >> into his motion and delivers. sinker, swing and miss, struck him out, ball game over. tim johnson, redemption. he gets them one, two three and ends it with a strikeout of alex rodriguez. >> bill: i turned it off when they projected that the first pitch would be at 8:45. i figured they would delay it again. >> yeah, they got it in. >> bill: i'm going to the national's name tomorrow. >> bill: how did you get a ticket, hombre? >> i have connections. >> bill: i tried to get a ticket yesterday. i wanted two tickets.
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and it came back and said we can't sell you that many tickets. try again. >> yeah you can buy them online through certain ticket sellers -- >> bill: yeah, do theying want my right leg or my left leg -- >> they have standing-room only tickets that you can buy for the low, low price of $120. >> and that basically lets you in the stadium to walk around the concourse. >> yeah. >> bill: you just walk around. well the concourse is pretty good. >> so go in and have a $9 hot dog, and an $8 beer -- >> yeah, or you can get seats on top of the scoreboard for like
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160. >> it is a seat. >> yeah. >> tomorrow is a day game. >> bill: you know with congress out of town -- >> yeah, take off work. >> bill: that's really great. anyhow, we'll welcome the nationals home tomorrow. and we'll welcome joe here to talk about mitt romney's big foreign policy speech yesterday. dave zirin, will be along as well. and chris guidener will be in studio as well as well as judd from think progress. but first. >> on this tuesday, professional sky diver felix bum gardner is set to attempt to break his record he will free fall from
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120 thousand feet, and break the sound barrier, if all goes well he'll land safely in the new mexico dessert about ten minutes after he jumps. waiting for him will be joel, who holds the record. >> bill: there's one -- i just want to -- you said if all goes well -- >> if all goes well we'll land in the desert -- >> bill: if all doesn't go well what happens? dan? >> well, different outcome. [ laughter ] >> bill: a new cater in the desert. >> he jumps from like a little over 100,000 feet. he has been practicing every day. >> bill: how can you practice for this every day. >> they were saying he is going to suffer lung damage from this.
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there is no way around it. >> bill: why? >> why do it? >> bill: why do it? >> insanity. >> eric winslow delivered a message when his teammate was knocked out of the game. he say we are nothing more than athletes, we are not gladiators. he said the fans certainly have the right to boo for a poor performance, but they should never wish harmon anyone. >> bill: well said but it's also professional football. >> kansas city also booed robinson cano the whole time burring the home run derby. >> bill: really?
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>> sally field was awarded a presentation last night here in washington, d.c. and in that speech she came out that her son was game. and he presented her with the award. >> bill: dan, thank you. foreign policy and national security is center stage this morning. this is where i thought we would start our discussion this morning. it is not the centralish glue this presidential election. we know that. jobs and the economy is still going to be the deciding issue. it is what impacts most people in this country. it's what most people are concerned about. holding on to their job and house, making it through this sluggish economy as the economy does of course continue to improve under president obama's
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economic plan but yesterday mitt romney gave a foreign policy speech. that's what most of the news is about this morning. he gave the speech at the virginia military institute. i always get a chuckle over the fact whenever republicans want to appear tough and give a foreign policy speech, where they say we're going to run over anybody who looks -- that we don't like basically, anywhere on the planet they always go to some military school usually peter down in south carolina this happened to be in virginia because they know they are going to get a willing audience of little cadets in their uniforms who say we're going to bomb cape town. yay! [ laughter ] >> bill: then we're going to bomb paris. yay! so any way he got that crowd and got the reception he wanted and
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he put out a lot of stuff that just is not true. he said for example, this country is in greater danger than we have ever been before; that we have gone downhill in the eyes of the world in the last four years; that there's no direction to obama's foreign policy; that we have had no successes oversees. it has just been gloom. just like he says about the economy, we haven't created any jobs, the economy has just gotten worse under obama. he painted the same equally untrue picture of our foreign policy. here he is for example taking a pot shot at the word hope. >> romney: i know the president hoped for a safer freer and more prosperous middle east. i share this hope.
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but hope is not a strategy. we can't support our friends and defeat our enemies in the middle east when our words are not backed up by deeds. >> bill: our words are not backed up by deeds. hum. maybe he should ask osama bin laden about that one. what do you think mitt? >> or maybe ask gadhafi. >> bill: yes. and then here is a typical totally empty-headed hollow republican mark. >> romney: i believe that if america doesn't lead others will. others who don't share our interests and our values, and the world would grow darker for our friends, and fours. >> bill: profound. profound mitt. jesus christ could never had said it any better. and america, he says, we need a totally different course in our
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foreign policy. >> romney: it's time to change course in the middle east. that coarse should be organized around these bedroom principles, america must have confidence in our cause, clarity in our purpose, and resolve in our might. >> bill: what pradel. he doesn't say anything. you read the stories this morning. and basically when he spelled out what we should do it is basically nothing different than what president obama has done. he said we should support those who want to bring democracy to the middle east. and he said we should be joining other countries, helping them arm the rebels in syria.
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that's worth a debate whether or not the united states should be supplying tomorrows the rebels. we are supplying other forms of aid, but only on that point did % mitt romney say anything differently. i want to know what you think about this. what do you think about foreign policy that president -- president obama has brought about a different approach to foreign policy. i don't think there is any doubt. let's look at the war in iraq. it's over. there are just some peace-keeping troops there, and troops training the iraqi police. the war in afghanistan is wining down. that ten-year -- is it -- or maybe 12 years now we have been in afghanistan. we have a new democratic regime in egypt, we have a new democratic regime, working on it, in libya.
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we have called for the removal from power of president assad of syria, and again, without supplying them arms or helping the rebels and have clearly put ourselves on the cause of the rebels there. not to mention almost the entire leadership of al-qaeda is gone. they have been targeted and killed by the obama administration. osama bin laden no longer is a threat to the united states and neither is moammar gadhafi. and iran is nowhere closer to getting a nuclear weapon than they were before president obama took office. and america's prestige is up all over the world. the most popular person in europe today is barack obama. so people look differently and more kindly and more as a friend and partner to the
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united states than they ever did under george bush and dick cheney. i think this president has made a huge contribution in lifting the united states in the eyes of the world, and we are safer today than we ever were under george bush and dick cheney. 866-55-press, what do you say. >> announcer: radio meets telejigs. the "bill press show" now on current tv. of this democracy and see your tweets up on our screen. >>now that's politically direct.
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>> announcer: heard around the ♪
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>> announcer: this is the "bill press show." >> bill: you got it 26 minutes after the hour. before we get to your calls on this whole foreign policy issue. remember what george bush said, other than september 11th they kept saying hey, it has been seven years and we haven't had a terror attack on the united states. that proves george bush and dick cheney are doing a good job. oh, god, they are keeping us safe. well . . . why aren't they giving barack obama the same amount of credit? bill is calling from new york city. hi bill, what do you say? >> caller: how are you doing bill? >> bill: good. >> caller: my opinion on romney
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is he is a warmonger. he wants to destroy any negotiations we had with the big powers about reducing our weapons. okay? and if he gets elected we're going to be in a brand new war. everything in the huff post ten things mitt romney wishes he didn't invest in. and he got rid of them before he had to get his tax return in. some were swiss banks that had direct ties to iran. >> bill: yeah look -- >> caller: i really think this guy is going to put us back to war. >> bill: he is the guy who said we should have not have ended the war in afghanistan, and he said yesterday we should not have ended the war in iraq. i think you are right. we start sending arms to syria,
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we are talk about a major new war. mitt romney that's what he wants. >> announcer: this is the "bill press show." ♪ i.q. will go way up. how are you ever going to solve the problem if you don't look at all of the pieces? >>tv and radio talk show host stephanie miller rounds out current's morning news block. >>you're welcome current tv audience for the visual candy. >>sharp tongue, quick whit and above all, politically direct. >>you just think there is no low they won't go to. oh, no. if al gore's watching today...
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♪ >> announcer: this is the "bill press show." >> bill: it is 33 minutes after the hour. this is tuesday october 9th. we're talking foreign policy national security. the real question is -- this is an issue in which republicans have always won until this year. are we safer under president obama than we were under george w. bush?
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would we be safer if we put mitt romney on? that's the question he raised yesterday. he said barack obama has put us on a danger course. no success we can point to particularly in the middle east. i think he has it dead wrong. how about you? first here is a little helpful reminder for some of you, and who isn't, struggling at the end of the month to make sure you can pay your bills. a way to get extra income at home, incomeathome.com. they know what they are doing and making you an offer that you can do. you can literally earn money from your own kitchen table, 24/7. all you need is a little extra time and the coaching from our
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columbia presidential campaign team. >> stop it. >> bill: the district of columbia, happens to be -- i think it's 95% democratic registration. i used to know the republican chair. she used to have meetings of the republican committee for washington, d.c. like around her kitchen table. so i would like to see the first meeting of the mitt romney campaign -- >> you should totally -- you should go, and just see. [ laughter ] >> why the hell not? >> bill: yeah, any rate were i ever inclined -- i would be less inclined after yesterday's speech. rick is calling from scottsdale arizona. hey, rick how are you doing? >> bill: good. thanks for your call.
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>> caller: i think we are so much better under president obama. we are looked at much better as americans. i wouldn't have gone anywhere in the world with bush as president, i would have wore a canadian jersey. i think he gets his facts the same way his church was founded by some guy walking around in the desert suffering from heat stroke. >> bill: yeah, when you look at the facts the reality, right -- i mean george bush talked about bringing democracy to the middle east. what happened? nothing all he did was perhaps up the old corrupt regimes. under barack obama it has actually happened. you have to credit the people in
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those countries who rose up and did what they did, but barack obama was on their side right? making it happen. >> caller: [ inaudible ]. >> bill: yeah, absolutely so i think that just about the -- as i say -- it's parallel with how mitt romney tries to run down the economy. he is trying now to run down the new standing that america has around the world. veronica here in washington, d.c. good morning. >> caller: good morning, bill how are you? >> bill: i'm good thanks for your call. what do you say? >> caller: my call is about mitt romney. he needs to go back to school for -- because somehow another he missed his history somewhere along the line and he acts like he lives in an ivory tower and what hits us the middle class, the lower class, it doesn't
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touch him. i don't think he understands the real reason for foreign policy. we need to -- and president obama is trying to make it so that we -- all try to just get along. and he just [ inaudible ] speech he said that he was going to [ inaudible ] osama bin laden down and they are going to kill him, and that's it. and that's what he did. >> bill:. >> caller: and on top of that he is making statement that the taliban will no longer rule regulation or say who does what and who goes somewhere. i love what president obama is doing. mitt romney right sit in a rocker chair on the porch and
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play with his grandchildren. >> bill: all right. veronica you summed it up. mitt romney as you summed it up has no connection to the middle class. born with a silver spoon in his mouth. can't identify. and he doesn't really have a grasp of what is happening in this country or around the world. i think he proved that yesterday. ronnie is in phoenix, arizona. good morning. >> caller: good morning, bill how are you doing? >> bill: i'm good. good to hear from you. >> caller: i did hear his speech yesterday, and i have to tell myself george w. bush. basically the people that write his speeches, are they all george w. bush's people?
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and it made no sense to me that we had to hear that all over again. >> bill: yeah and george bush took us into two wars in the middle east, and which we have paid everything for, and -- and that's -- that's the bush legacy, and a lot of talk about bringing a democracy to the middle east, and nothing hand. >> caller: correct. and i have a question about the pew poll. it made no sense to me a week ago basically it was five up obama. now it's five up romney? >> bill: i'm going to defer that question -- we're going to talk about the pew poll at the top of the next hour here. let me just say this, do not panic about one poll. lynn calling from topeka
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indiana? >> caller: topeka indiana. >> bill: i never knew there was a topeka indiana. >> caller: yeah we're not that far from the michigan border. >> bill: and you compete with topeka, kansas for fame; is that it? >> caller: i don't know about that. [ laughter ] >> bill: what is on your mind this morning. >> caller: mr. romney to me is not mr. romney. it's mr. chicken hawk. this guy can screw up -- i don't know -- >> bill: a two-car funeral as they say. >> caller: yeah there could be a major accident involved. [ laughter ] >> caller: he scares me to death. not only does he screw up with saying about russia being our national enemy -- >> bill: oh, right. >> caller: and then he can go over to britain and get people ticked to the high heaven, and
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that was a disaster tour from comedy central. he is going to have world war iii and he is going to have some of our best allies blow up our outhouse as we say out here. >> bill: that's right. i forgot that russia was the greatest threat facing the united states. you are going to trust this guy on foreign policy? i wouldn't trust him to run bain capital anymore. you know? the more we see of mitt romney the less there is to admire. as if there was anything to start with. all right. come back. 866-55-press. dave zirin standing by to bring
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us up to day on sports. >> announcer: heard around the country, and seen on current tv this is the "bill press show." ♪ building up to this. >>bill shares his views, now it's your turn. >>i know you're going to want to weigh in on these issues. >>connect with "full court at facebook.com/billpressshow and on twitter at bpshow. >>i believe people are hungry for it.
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(vo) john fugelsang sees what happens. >> you know, blaming this economy on barack obama is kinda like blaming your hangover on the guy making breakfast. i like mitt romney but i'm sorry. they guy has flipped more than a crack house mattress. this campaign has become so toxic, beverly hills housewives are now injecting it into their foreheads. (vo) so current gave him a weekly show. >> i love romney's debate style, but i tell you, if i could be that stiff for 90 minutes, i'd ... (vo) we probably won't regret it.
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♪ ♪ yeah, oh, yeah ♪ ♪ yeah ♪ >> announcer: radio, meets television. the "bill press show" now on current tv. >> bill: how about it, 13 minutes before the top of the hour, stepping away from politics just a second here on the "full court press" this tuesday october 9th. we have a lot of great sports to talk about, and we turn to our good friend and share his sports
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expertise with the nation magazine, our own dave zirin. what do you say? >> hey, bill. >> bill: what do you say about the nationals? >> i don't even know what to say. experience might be a tremendously overrated commodity when it comes to playoff baseball. that's what i used to think, and i think a lot of us used to think was the one truism in baseball. but we're seeing it now the value of being young, dumb and ready to get out on that field and swing the bat. so it's an amazing thing to see the nationals and to contemplate that we could be looking at our beltway version of the series.
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if that happened i would feel like the mayans were right, the world is about to implode. >> bill: let's not get ahead of ourselves -- >> oh i'm sorry. >> bill: but still it certainly felt good to win that first game. >> absolutely. look at who they are playing. the nationals are playing the depending world series champions in the st. louis cardinals. and i think the nationals my goodness top to bottom the lineup is without flaws. the washington nationals have the best record in majority leader baseball. they are managed by the great davey johnson who managed the 1986 new york mets and then when you flip over to the orioles, they are 29-9?
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one-run games this year. and 74-0 when leading after seven innings. this is a team that has ice water running through its veins. and to see andy pettitte being taken down in a post season game -- it's like ivan drago in rocky iv where they say he's cut! he's cut. to see the cardinal and the yankees go down on a knee it does make you think, holy crap we could have a beltway series. >> bill: yes and at the same time there is the rest of the country -- >> oh screw them.
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let him have his moment bill. [ laughter ] >> bill: but not too bad for the san francisco bay area. >> not at all. but i tell you something this oakland as team that is the one thing right now. i was making a joke that mitt romney said i picked the oakland as to go all the way and it would have been just another lie, because nobody picked the as, so just the mere fact that they won that season and outlasted the rangers and angels of anaheim just west of orange county, whatever they are calling themselves right now, it was an amazing feet on to themselves, but the district tigers i picked them to get out of the american league in april.
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i thought that looked so stacked to me, but the tigers i think are totally going to lay waste to them. >> bill: yeah. >> and the poor san francisco giants. every time i see joan walsh send a tweet i die a little inside. [ laughter ] >> but they have had a great season too but this is the someone of the nationals. >> bill: absolutely. i have to jump in we're talking with dave zirin, you can always follow him at edge of sports.com, and please do so. ohio state's third-spring freshman quarterback who tweets you -- you call it the dumbest tweet an athlete ever sent. he tweets quote, why should we have to go to class if we came
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here to play football. he ain't come to play school. classes are pointless. [ laughter ] >> that's right. i call it the original title before it got edited was the smartest or the dumbest, or maybe the dumbest an athlete ever sent. because it's one thing saying we ain't coming to play school is hardly something that is going to ring through the ages -- >> bill: oh, i don't know. >> yeah, you are right. it will ring through the ages. because it touches on the incredible hypocrisy that money plays. because you are an unpaid campus employee. you are in a position of indentured servitude, and the
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coach of ohio state makes a base salary of $4 million a year. he is the highest paid public employee in the state of ohio. he has use of a private yet. he has a membership to a golf club. he has a fellowship in his name on campus, and the whole precipus, the whole foundation is the stance that we are asking 18 year olds to actually participate in this hypocrisy. >> bill: you are on a role but we have to go. dave you are on it as always. thanks, my man. >> my privilege guys. >> announcer: this the "bill press show." ♪
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♪ >> announcer: taking your emails on any topic at anytime, this is the "bill press show," live on your radio and current tv. >> bill: donald francis says how do you debate a man who stands for nothing? the only place romney ever told the truth was in front of the rich donors. and i have been listening to pundits praise mitt romney but how can a guy who told 28 lies in 37 minutes, and was totally rude to the moderator, be
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declared the winner? >> announcer: this the "bill press show."
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[♪ theme music ♪] >> bill: hey good morning, everybody. what do you say? it is tuesday october 9th. great to see you today this is the "full court press" coming to you live on current tv from our studio here on capitol hill in washington, d.c., and bringing you up to date on all of the news of the day, whether it is happening here in washington, d.c., around the country, or around the globe. and we'll give you a chance to
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talk about it take your calls here at 866-55-press. and one thing about last week's debate nobody is talk about, and that's this: the one thing the debate accomplished it destroys once and for all about the myth of the bias of the liberal media. if romney would have had a bad night, fox news would have declared him the winner no doubt about it. we'll talk about that is a whole lot more on the "full court press." but first it's lisa ferguson. good morning. >> hey bill, good morning, everyone. big bird is enjoying extra time in the spotlight this week and he is at it again in this newed a from the obama campaign. it compares big bird to economic criminals like bernie madoff.
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>> big yellow a menace to our society. >> i'm going to stop the subsidy to pbs. >> the ad then praises romney for taking on our enemies no matter where they nest. the president is really hammering romney on this whole big bird comment. >> obama: you didn't know this but for all of you moms and kids out there, you should have confidence that finally somebody is cracking down on big bird. >> although romney arguably performed better during the debate, he is real taking heat for taking on pbs. and plus many moms are saying they are not comfortable voting for romney when he wants to cut their kids' programming. insiders say the rom nis were
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incredibly frustrated when his campaign manager and then they stepped in to rework his strategy. back with more bill after the break. stay with us. ♪ how are you ever going to solve the problem if you don't look at all of the pieces? >>tv and radio talk show host stephanie miller rounds out current's morning news block. >>you're welcome current tv audience for the visual candy. >>sharp tongue, quick whit and above all, politically direct. >>you just think there is no low they won't go to. oh, no. if al gore's watching today...
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and jamal simmons for filling in. peter ogburn has been here all the way through. dan henning back today. and siprion bolding still off on a special assignment. but monty is filling in as our videographer of the week. >> welcome back. >> bill: and guess who was back yesterday too on "the view." they go from barack obama and michelle obama to donald trump? i don't know. there he was last night. and new job numbers are out. great news for america, right. down to below 8% and donald trump says this is bad news. >> if you are looking for a job and you give up, they take you off the roll, do you don't count. when they saw the 7.8% every
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economist was shocked. because the real number is anywhere from 16 to 21%. >> bill: and if you don't believe it, ask donald trump. >> there was a time -- and i will admit to falling into some of this that donald trump was entertaining. he has always been a little nutty and kooky and entertaining, but now he is just obnoxious. >> i watched the first couple of seasons of "the apprentice." it was fun. now he has just gone crazy. >> yeah. >> bill: i thought he was a fraud from the beginning. i never liked him. i'm going years back, and maybe it is because i met him. >> that might be it. >> bill: yeah, i actually filled
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in for donald trump. it's a long story. but i filled in for donald trump once at a big fund raiser in philadelphia where people paid thousands of dollars to have their picture taken with donald trump, and he didn't show up until two hours late -- >> so they took pictures with you? >> exactly. >> well, you do have better hair. >> and his helicopter swoops in to this dinner. he is a putz. total jerk. [ laughter ] >> bill: speaking of "the view," i have to say my favorite member of "the view" team of course is joy behar, and it was so much fun last night to be in new york in studio with joy behar debating the issues with armstrong williams but joy is a real kick. i love the title of her show
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"say anything," because she will. she is a great talent great fun, and good to see her on "the view" and on current tv. judd will be here as he is every tuesday to take a look at the big mitt romney speech and chris geidner, and everybody is all upset about the latest pew poll. don't panic. i'll tell you all about it. >> on this tuesday other stuff to talk about, another day another split in hollywood. this marriage lasted a while, though. danny devito and wife rita perlman are calling it quits. they have been together 42 years. they have got three adult children together. no word yet what is causing the
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split. >> bill: they have been together 42 years married for 30 years -- marriage can only last so long. can you believe it? >> we all know what they look like, right. when you look at the two of them next to each other, all i can think is there is somebody for everybody. >> bill: they made the perfect couple. >> absolutely. >> bill: they are both stand up comics, four feet tall and ugly as sin. >> yeah they are not attractive people. >> the opposite of ugly as sin, esquire magazine has named mila kunis has this year's sexsiest woman alive. she doesn't shy away from talk about politics telling the magazine, quote, the way that republicans attack women is so offensive to me and the way they
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talk about religion is offensive as well. some people don't like to hear celebrities talk about politics. i don't think i'm a celebrity, i'm a working actress. >> oh god. spare me that line. >> and it's looking more and more likely that the smaller cheaper ipad is coming this fall. apple has placed an initial order of 10 million tablets being dubbed as the ipad mini. the current ipad has a 9 inch screen, while the competing kindle and nook have 7-inch screens. >> the phones are getting bigger, and the ipads are getting bigger. >> i wouldn't want a smaller screen. >> the only benefit would be cost. because presumably you could buy
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one for cheaper. >> bill: no. >> i'm with you. >> bill: steve jobs would not like it either. >> i think you might be right. >> bill: all right. yes, indeed look the news of the day we have already had calls and emails about it. obama supporters are panic over the latest pew poll. the poll this morning shows that among likely voters since last week's debate mitt romney has soared -- well, he has bounced at least and he is up four points now. 49-45 over president obama, again, according to the pew research center among registered voters it's 46-46. here is my take on this. don't panic. okay? ing don't panic. it is not all over. some people think it is and not
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the case. let us remind ourselves, and just step back here for a second, what this really does mean. first of all i have to -- i -- i have to laugh remembering that just a week or so ago, before the debate when every one of the national polls showed president obama up by three, four, five, six, seven points. republicans were running around saying polls don't matter. these polls don't mean anything right. now there's one poll that goes the other way, and the top headline is it's all over for obama. suddenly polls matter now, right? so don't fall into this trap. if anything this proves as president obama has said from the beginning, this is going to be a close election friends.
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i don't think it should be. i think obama has done a great job, and he ought to be reelected unanimously, but not going to be that way. times are tough. too many people are still out of work. the economy has just not recovered as quickly as it should be. and there are so many gazillions of dollars in super pac money on the other side all of this point to a close election. you also have to remember that this is only one poll out of many, and this is a national poll, and we do not vote -- we have made this point before -- we do not vote as a nation for president. we vote state by state by state by state and it's electoral votes that decide. all of that having been said
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what i do with these polls, and i tell everywhere i go and people ask me which polls to trust and which polls not to trust, i always tell people go to real clear politics. i'm not saying it is not in the bag for obama. it's not in the bag for romney either. if you look at real clear politics, and compare, national polls, a lot of numbers here and i think it'sing important to keep this in context. pew has romney up by four points. "politico," obama up by one point. gallop, obama up by five points. cnn, obama up by three points.
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nbc, obama up by three points and real clear politics averaging out has obama up by a half of point when you take every single national poll out there. so, yeah romney does well on the pugh poll, obama is leading in all of the rest of them. the in-trade -- peter can help me out with that. the in-trade average, i think is sort of like the las vegas betting average. >> yeah. yeah. yeah. >> bill: right. what the brokers are saying if you are placing bets or buying stock, the in-trade average by the way is obama 64 romney 35.7. so the prognosticators are not giving romney a great chance here. now what is more important is to go to the battleground states.
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pardon me. again, the battleground states, and there are about ten of them they are the ones that are really at play. it's going to be the electoral vote college. let's look at some of the battleground states. in pennsylvania president obama up by seven. florida tie. republican-leading state obama is still tied there. iowa, obama up by 3.2. colorado close. obama up by .2%. >> michigan obama up by 6. nevada obama up by 4.6. ohio, no republican has won the presidency without winning ohio obama is up by three. mitt romney and president obama are in ohio today.
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ohio is a key, key, key battleground state. when you add them up here is where the electoral college stands today. you need 270 to win. president obama has locked in, according to real clear politics, 251. mitt romney 181. so this thing -- my point is, far -- this thing is far, far, far from over. this thing is going to be close, and the pew poll is no reason to panic. 866-55-press. that's the lay of the land. that's the real lay of the land today, so you know what it really means? 28 days left no letting up. just work our butts off in every way that people. tell your friends, tell your
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neighbors, make sure you are registered, they are registered and get out to vote. 866-55-press. let's talk about this pew poll. i'm telling you don't panic. work harder. 866-55-press. >> announcer: this is the "bill press show," live on your radio and current tv. ♪ (vo) always outspoken, now unleashed. joy behar. >> on my next show, robert klein can't stop his leg, gilbert gottfried can't stop his mouth and i can't stop laughing long enough to ask a question.
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television, the "bill press show." >> bill: all right. 25 minutes after the hour. jud with think progress coming up next. right now we're talking about a lot of reaction to the pew poll showing obama now trailing mitt romney by four points. romney bouncing up after last week's debate. leslie is calling from cleveland, ohio. good morning. >> caller: good morning. >> bill: what do you think? >> caller: i just wanted to say they don't believe the people in cleveland where i live they are very enthused to vote. they have either voted already, or are going to vote soon and they just thought romney's performance was just a bunch of lies. and i know at least ten people who didn't vote in '08 that are
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going to vote this year. >> bill: well i hope so. >> caller: we got an allred state house here in ohio. >> bill: exactly. and you also had a secretary of state who tried to suppress the vote in ohio. people can already vote in ohio. good to hear from you. mike in sheperdstown west virginia. >> caller: good morning, bill you are doing a good job. even the president said this i think we all knew that it would tighten. and i don't know that the debate performance was really that great. but i think that the polls are going to tighten. you have said this consistently. this is going to be a close race. >> bill: absolutely. every time i have heard the
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president speak about this, he tells people that right? there are too many factors the way this country is split today that contribute to the fact that it is going to be close. it's not going to be a big difference, maybe three to five points either way. >> caller: yeah, don't get mad, vote. >> bill: exactly. all right. mike appreciate it. i think it's important that we keep our perspective about these polls. it's not the national polls that matter. we ought to be looking at the battleground states. and the president is in ohio. he knows what it is all about. the president has been in ohio virginia, nevada florida i think he has headed back to north carolina, he knows where the votes are. he knows what he has got to win,
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and he is working his butt off at it, and we have to do the same thing. >> announcer: this is the "bill press show." ♪ (vo) what is said here could decide the election. current tv presents coverage of the vice presidential debate. with unrivaled analysis and commentary. >> was this the game changer? is this going to change the dynamic? (vo) the only network with real-time reaction straight from the campaigns and from viewers like you. >> so keep on tweeting and maybe you'll have your voice be part of this democracy and see your tweets up on our screen. >>now that's politically direct.
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>> announcer: this is the "bill press show." >> bill: tuesday october 9th, the "full court press." here we are live from our nation's capitol, and heading down to ashville north carolina, you are invited to the party. big party in ashville and it's going to be probably as big as the convention in charlotte. friday night at avenue m restaurant, 6:00 to 8:00 pm i'm
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going to be down there with my good friends from 880 the revolution signing copies of the new paperback lies, distortions and personal attacks on the president and who's behind them." come out and say hello. we'll talk politics and the vice president debate. i hope to see all of you down in asheville, and we are so happy to welcome back to our studio for his tuesday appearance as always, from think progress editor and chief, judd lagram. >> good to be here bill. >> bill: a lot of talk still about the debate and think progress, i think summed up the debate better than anybody else when you put out the word that mitt romney had told 27 lies in 38 minutes.
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>> we have been going through in real time, that's how we blog the debates. we have three more debates coming up and we'll be doing it. and i think like everyone as we watched the debate it was clear it was not obama's best night. he wasn't mentally there, wasn't fighting back as much as he usually would. but what kind of comes out, and it is not immediately apparent was just how much mitt romney had shifted, and shitted from a place of being honest about what his plans were really to the other side. so if you look at his -- you know, his tax plan medicare plan, foreign policy, straight down the line he wasn't being clear and open about what his policies were.
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it's unclear what they are at this point, but that was something i think that emerged as you took a step back and looked at the debate. >> bill: yeah, as you point out, and we have got to admit it, it was not obama's best night, but mitt romney looked good right? but there has been very little focus other than you, think progress, on what he said and the stuff that mitt romney was saying. some of it was unbelievable. he says he is going cut taxes by $4.8 trillion, but no taxes that will contribute to the deficit? >> yeah. that one stuck out, especially since you can go right back to the primary campaign and when he was debating newt gingrich and rick santorum and the rest of the crew, he said hey wait a second, i'm going to reduce
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taxes by 20% across the board including the top 1%. that was his line. and the other thing that really stuck out is this issue of preexisting conditions when he looks into the camera and says hey, my plan does cover preexisting conditions. well that is just not true. it doesn't cover preexisting conditions for people who haven't had insurance before, which is a big part of the problem, literally millions and millions of people who would not be covered under his plan. >> bill: the one that really disappointed me to say the least, three times he came back to president obama has cut medicare benefits by $716 billion. >> yeah well there's -- there are a number of problems with that, starting with that it's not true. it's -- what he has done is they found savings on the provider
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side, so if you are a medicare beneficiary, you are not going to have your benefits reduced which is of course what people -- >> bill: it's insurance companies who participate in the medicare advantage -- >> yeah. >> bill: and are taking advantage of it. >> yeah, getting more reimbursement than really they should be, but though other part beyond that is that paul ryan included all of these cuts and really savings on the beneficiary side in his budget. mitt romney said he would of course support the ryan budget. now he is saying that is not my budget, that is his budget but he would sign it if it came to his desk. but the point is to criticize cuts that your running mate, the person you think is best qualified to step in for you, also endorsed along with the
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bulk of the republican conference, you know is a little bit disenagainous. >> bill: on the issue of tax cuts it is $4.8 trillion but he said it is not going to add to the deficit, because he will offset that loss in revenue by closing tax loopholes. he hasn't identified which loopholes he would close or which programs he would cut other than pbs. >> right. >> bill: big bird. here we go right. substantial savings? >> well of course not. as we know it's actually less than .01 of 1%. and it's funny how these debates shake out. i think if you look at the polls, mitt romney at least in the immediate aftermath has gotten a bump. he has improved his standings
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from where he was. but one of the things that -- that i have noticed as an observer of this is that a lot of times the debate will get distilled down to one or two or three moments, and one of the moments was this big bird moments. it was shocking to have somebody call out big bird. >> bill: yeah. >> and the obama campaign has a new ad out this morning that focuses on big bird. >> bill: we have got to get that, yeah. >> so i don't think it is going to be the last you hear of it. and i think it's part of the process of the obama campaign take what wasn't their greatest performance, and we'll have the vice president debate this week and then two presidential debates in the weeks following, but try to define the debate and make it about the points they
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weren't to talk about. and i think they have succeeded in this one. in that if you ask somebody to tell you what happened in the debate, this is probably one of the parts that would bring up. >> this is the one that still has legs. president obama does make fun of his own performance, but he is having a lot of fun at every stop talking about big bird. >> obama: elmo -- has been seen in [ inaudible ] suburban. he is running for the border. oscar is hiding out in his trash can. >> bill: like oj in the white suburban. and the audience is picking up. they know what he is talking about. >> and i think one of the problems for romney is it is
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hard for him to pivot off of this because he doesn't have a lot of other specifics. >> bill: right. if you are asked to name specifics and you only have one, and you turn into it a punch line, and you can say i'm not just talk about pbs, i want to cut this program and this program, he doesn't want to get into all of that. >> bill: yeah. mitt romney yesterday giving a big speech on foreign policy where we has president obama has a feckless foreign policy that has left this country less secure and we have lost our leadership in the world. but what did he propose? >> it was a fascinating speech in this respect, that it was
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reter toicly about president obama. but then if you peel back that layer, and look at the policies they really don't differ at all on a lot of the major issues from what obama is currently pursuing. if you look at his policy on iran, basically he is saying that we should have very tough sanctions, which we would enforce, and i think president obama has implemented the toughest sanctions that we have ever had. >> bill: absolutely. >> no one has made them as tough has president obama has when he has been in office and mitt romney really hasn't gone and delineated as netenyahu would -- would presumably like folks to do some clear red line that -- that differs from obama's red line. obama has said they didn't get nuclear weapons. that seems to be where mitt
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romney draws the line too, at least publicly. >> bill: and we'll get into some of the other issues too, where romney talked a tough game yesterday but actually didn't propose anything new or different, and the question is too how important will foreign policy be in this 2012 debate. 866-55-press you know the toll free number. judd legum with us. join the conversation. >> announcer: this is the "bill press show." (vo) always outspoken, now unleashed. joy behar. >> on my next show, robert klein can't stop his leg, gilbert gottfried can't stop his mouth and i can't stop laughing long enough to ask a question.
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>> announcer: this is the "bill press show." >> bill: how about it? 13 minutes before the top of the hour. judd legum in studio with us. the editor and chief of the progress. we'll get back to our conversation with judd in just a minute. but this article from boston.com got my attention. more than 200 cases of lost or stolen data affected 8.5 million americans reported during the first half of 2012. you hear something like that and you think identity theft. it is out there. it could hit you and you ought to do something about it by getting protection against identity theft. i have with what is called life lock ultimate. it's the most comprehensive id protection ever made.
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>> romney: big bird. big bird. big bird. >> it's me big bird. >> mitt romney know it's not wall street you have to worry about it, it's sesame street. mitt romney taking on our enemies no matter where they nest. >> bill: i love that last line. no matter where they nest. there was a cartoon yesterday, i think mcnulty -- >> uh-huh. >> bill: that iconic photo of president obama sitting there with defense secretary robert get as and secretary of state hilary clinton with the osama bin laden raid and they are watching the video. >> uh-huh. >> bill: there was a cartoon yesterday where it's mitt romney and his cabinet and they are watching the raid own big bird headquarters. [ laughter ] >> bill: it is something people can identify with and will
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stick. >> yeah, and i think obama is pretty good at taking these kinds of moments and not letting them go. i think you will probably hear this in every stump speech -- >> bill: and he may raise it again at the next debate. >> yes. and they are pretty good at finding an advantage like this and trying to run it with. >> bill: on iraq mitt romney said yesterday -- criticized the president for pulling all of our troops out of iraq. the war in iraq is over. is mitt romney really saying we ought to go back in or stayed there? what is his point? >> i think that's the issue. he is not saying that. he doesn't have a plan that we're going to take 10,000 or 5,000 troops and go back in that we know about -- >> there are still some troops there. >> yeah, for the embassy in particular and things like that. so he's not saying that he is
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going pursue a different policy but he just wants to be critical of what the obama policy is. and i think that's what we saw through the issues, if you listen it to it sounds like he is ready to take the nation on a very different course, but hasn't articulated a substantial difference. there is an interesting piece in the "new york times" that described how he is being pulled in a lot of different directions. the neo-cons on one side and the more moderates on the other side, was described as disengaged by on the issue by his own campaign aids who were interviewed. so clearly not a place where he has really carved out a crisp platform or message. >> bill: or a place where he is comfortable. let's hear a quick hello from joey from chicago. >> caller: good morning, guys.
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i mind it remarkable when all of these republican men have a chance to go to war in the 60s, they were all cowards but now when they want to be a general, they want to star a war now. all of those republicans had a chance to be a man and go to war when they were going to be a fighter, not a general. i find it remarkable that any veteran would vote for these cowards. >> bill: dick cheney has other priorities. that's what he told the world. and i didn't hear mitt romney say he was going to send his five sons to iraq or syria or iran. judd we never finish all of the topics we want to talk about. but we're out of time. think progress, thinkprogress.org make it start of your daily search and viewing
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and reads online. thank you, judd. >> thanks, bill. >> bill: i'll be back with a quick look at the president's schedule today. >> announcer: heard around the country and seen on current tv. this is the "bill press show." ♪ offer ends soon! my name is angela trapp, and i sea food differently. build a ground-breaking car. good. now build a time machine. go here, find someone who can build a futuristic dash board display.
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not true! [ ♪ theme ♪ ] ♪ >> announcer: this is the "bill press show." >> bill: joe will join us in studio at the top of the next hour to dissect mitt romney's foreign policy speech yesterday, and then chris geidner from buzz feed will be along in studio as well. on the president's schedule
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today he spent the night in san francisco after a couple of campaign events in san francisco yesterday afternoon and evening. this morning he leaves san francisco at 9:25 and heads off to ohio. of course ohio. ohio, wow, he's -- i think he could register to vote in ohio he has been there so often. a big campaign event at ohio state university in columbus ohio where i was with president obama when he kicked off his 2012 campaign. he'll be back on that campus today, and that's a key state. the latest real clear politics poll shows president obama up by three points in ohio. he wants to increase that lead and we'll be going back to ohio i'm sure probably ten more times between now and november 6th. we'll come back, did mitt romney really say anything substantial
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[♪ theme music ♪] >> bill: good morning, everybody. welcome to the "full court press." here we go. another big day in politics here in election 2012. this is the "full court press" coming to you live across this great land of ours on current tv and giving you a chance to join the conversation by giving us a call at 866-55-press. a lot of panic today among democrats about the latest pew
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poll that shows mitt romney up over president obama by four points, and my -- my advice is don't panic. but it does show once again this election, friends is going to be close. it is not in the bag for president obama, far from it. democrats need to continue working their butts off between now and november 6th. we'll talk about that and a whole lot more here. but first lisa ferguson. good morning. take it away. >> hey bill good morning, everyone. in one of the hottest senate races in the country, tim kaine is gaining a big lead over his republican opponent george allen. according to the latest polling, kaine is up 7 points. ppp does lean to the left but talking points memo poll tracker is averaging all the poles and still finding kaine up by 7
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points. those numbers were going into last night's big debate. kaine called himself a huge public broadcasting fan and promised not to fire big bird if he takes the senate. george allen, though distances himself from women voters when he refused to answer questions on abortion. the general assembly has proposed forcing women to have an ul twra sound before they get an apportion. last night allen refused to stake a stance on that. and when asked whether life starts at conception allen said a personhood bill could help punish an attacker if they hurt her unborn child. and 22-year-old abigail fisher who is white says her race is the reason she was not accepted to the university of texas. she is hoping to get race completely out of the admissions
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process. the university of texas said they would not have accepted her regardless, but also that it should have the freedom to create a varied student body. more bill press after the break. stay with us. matter. >> i wouldn't be where i am today if it wasn't for capella university. i go to work every day and know that i make a difference. when patients leave this office they have hope in their eyes. it make me feel like i'm really doing what i was meant to do. they have given me the tools that i need to be the best "me" that i can be.
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[ ♪ theme ♪ ] >> announcer: broadcasting across the nation on your radio and on current tv, this is the "bill press show." >> bill: yep, michele bachmann takes the american flag down. >> bill: okay. tuesday october 9th, good morning, everybody. great to see you today. welcome to the "full court press" here on current tv and on your local progressive talk radio station. all of your radio listeners, and tv watchers good to have you with us today. mitt romney throwing foreign policy into the middle of the presidential election yesterday. president obama on the stump
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today in ohio, and guess who else is going to be in ohio. yeah. coincidence. mitt romney. you know where this election is going to play out. we have a lot to talk about today and a lot that you are going to want to weigh in on so give us a call at 866-55-press. good to have joe here with us. hello, joe. >> good morning, bill. good to be here. >> bill: looking very sharp today. didn't you get the memo that it is dress down day -- >> some of us have to go out in the best of the world. >> bill: well, it is washington. look at our well-dressed team, peter ogburn dan henning. >> good morning. nothing special today. >> i wore this in honor of our
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buzzfeed friends. >> bill: what does it have on it? >> it has a cat. they are big on the lol cats. never mind. >> bill: president obama on the road yesterday. he is talk a lot about the debate last week and i think he came up with a good line to sum up what mitt romney's performance was all about. >> obama: what was being presented wasn't leadership. that's salesmanship. >> bill: which is really good. i said he reminded me of these teleevangelists, and he performed well, but what he said was a pack of lies. >> yeah, and he did it again
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yesterday at virginia mill stair institute in his foreign policy speech. but we'll get to that in a second. >> bill: every time a republican wants to sound tough on a foreign policy they go to a military school. >> yes. >> where they line up their cadets in their uniform and they have to applaud of every line. >> yeah or they find a submarine or some hangar some military prop. >> bill: exactly. all right. joe is here with us to dissect and destroy the foreign policy speech of mitt romney yesterday. chris geithner from buzzfeed to talk about the candidates on lbgt issues. but first. >> overhead lines today, the
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game two of the nlds the cardinals won to tie that series at 1-1. and the orioles won yesterday's game in camden yards. in cincinnati the red 2-0. in the american league it is detroit playing oakland. the tigers lead that series, 2-0. >> bill: but now we're going to get the cardinals on our home turf. >> yes. >> bill: best of five, right? >> yes. we split it. won one there, not bad. i understand that some people are going to the game. >> i am going tomorrow. >> bill: stop rubbing it in. >> i am pumped. >> you are not allowed to go to the game. >> bill: i know i have been
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blackballed because every time i go to the game they lost. when i got home carol was watching the game, and i said you shouldn't be watching. >> ben affleck said the actress sideswiped a car in santa monica, he stopped his car, and left a note on the wind shield saying i will never everything. and then took his daughter to mcdonald's. >> an honest man. >> bill: but not taking his daughter to mcdonald. >> the folks at nasa are celebrating another milestone curiosity scooped up its first sample of dirt. scientists applauded as much if not louder when they landed.
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the rover is now analyzing the dirt looking for signs of microbial life. >> i have to admit i'm a wonk i love this stuff. >> bill: absolutely. we haven't done an update on this show in a couple of weeks. >> we'll get him back on dr. beagle. he is our resident nasa nerd. >> bill: all right. dan, thank you. mitt romney wants to show that he knows what he is talk about when it comes to foreign policy. peter if we could take the second bite. i just found like so much he said in the debate and like his speech in tampa as well full of platitudes -- now he's trying to say that president obama has a
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fleckless foreign policy that got us nowhere. >> romney: i believe if america doesn't lead others will. others who don't share our interests and our values and the world would grow darker for our friends and for us. >> bill: what does that mean? >> yeah. >> bill: that implies that america hasn't been a leader for the last four years? >> yeah. was a speech that was very much like his debate performance. it was well delivered, booming rhetoric, filled with values and compassion and all wrapped in flags, but when you examined it there was very very little substance there. very few instances where you could see he would do something different from what president obama was doing, and sprinkled in there were a lot of falsehoods and distortions. >> bill: yeah. like we weren't as safe as we
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were. >> four years ago we were in iraq. people were dying every day in iraq. we're out of that now. osama bin laden has been killed. al-qaeda has been decimated. we are moving out of the war in afghanistan. we have isolated iran more than it has ever been isolate before. it is hard to find that you can claim where something is worse than it was four years ago. >> bill: there is a new government in egypt, in tanishia, the arab spring has happened. >> yes, and he presents it as a threat and then he pivots to praise it. it is much more nuance many
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people who are islamist also want peace. this is actually the kind of thing we want to see, the arab people taking their faith in their own hands. >> bill: let's talk about iraq romney is critical of the president >> romney: america's ability to influence represents for the better of iraq has been undermined by the abrupt withdrawal of our entire troop presence. >> bill: first of all it was hardly abrupt and secondly what is he suggesting? that we should not have ends the war in iraq. >> more than that it was president bush who signed the
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withdrawal agreement. these are sins of omission. so it was president bush who agreed to withdrawal all u.s. combat forces. >> bill: does he really think the american people want to continue this war in iraq? >> of course not. the american people wanted us out then, and want us out of afghanistan faster. he just raises these vague images of danger and fecklessness, and weakness without saying he would do anything different, same in afghanistan. it's a remarkable segment on afghanistan where he says that he also would withdrawal all u.s. combat troops but then criticizes the president for doing that. you say you can't hold two contradictory thoughts in your mind at the same time well mitt romney does. >> bill: okay. what about iran? >> this is where he really wants
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to sound tough that he would do something different than the participate. so he then gets into specifics. i got to read this. i will put the leaders of iran on notice the united states will prevent them from acquiring nuclear weapons capability. obama has done that. i will tathen the sanctions we currently have. check, obama has done that. i will increase the presence of aircraft presence. check, obama has done that. will work with israel to increase our military assistance. check, obama has done that. and finally their nuclear pursuit will not be tolerated. check. done. so where does he differ. >> bill: he is certainly not saying what netenyahu seemed to want him to say which is we're
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going to bomb iran day one of my presidency. >> if he has a policy that is different in substance than what he president has he should say so, and he doesn't. >> bill: the one area i have read about, he did say that we should indirectly help other nations arm the rebels in syria. >> yeah. >> bill: not that we should give them arms directly. but indirectly. so that is a difference right? president obama we are sending aid to the rebels but not military aid. isn't that a difference? >> this is a slight difference but the u.s. -- you know is coordinating with our allies to get supplies to the rebels. >> bill: right. >> it complicated because our allies have different views.
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there's also some evidence that we're actually covertly supplying arms to the rebels. we have a $25 million program for non-lethal aid. but most of this is being done through the arab countries, not through the united states directly. so there is a difference here but again, he doesn't spell it out. if he wants to do something more forceful? should we start a war with syria? he should say so. he doesn't. he just uses it to imply the president is weak and he would be strong. >> bill: what about the overall charge that our standing in the world has suffered and nations of the world don't respect us anymore. >> not born out by the facts. u.s. standing in the world plummeted to historic post cold
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war lows with the bush administration. poll after poll in other nations has said that obama has restored that. they went up a lot when he was elected, and it is tamped back down -- >> he is still the most popular politician in europe. >> yes. and u.s. standing now is higher now than almost any time in the bush administration. >> bill: and mitt romney is the one who said that our number one most serious threat on the planet is russia. >> is russia. yeah. >> bill: not al-qaeda, not -- yeah russia. got to wonder. let's talk mitt romney on foreign policy. do you trust him? do you think this is an issue that republicans can still win on? i think president obama has been tougher on national security than any other modern president to tell the truth.
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♪ >> announcer: radio meets television, the "bill press show." now on current tv. >> bill: 25 minutes after the hour. joe is in studio with us. the plow shares fund just out with a very very important new report, that the united states -- we're about to go on a spending binge.
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$640 billion over the next decade on nuclear weapons. >> and related program. it's up on our website take a look at it. we have a graph explaining it and all of the details. and you have to decide should we spend the money on nuclear repons. >> bill: very, very important. as is mitt romney's speech yesterday. he has it can sized the president for cutting military spending. >> yeah. this is the sequester that everybody is talk about -- >> bill: he is talk about across the board cuts in the defense department. but obama said he doesn't want those cuts. >> exactly. i believe we could absorb those
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cuts at levels away above our cold war average. but romney wants a $2 trillion increase. he didn't say that yesterday, and that's because it is one of the flaws in his positioning. he doesn't know how to pay for it. where do you get that money? what are you going to cut? there's not enough big birds to pay for that. [ laughter ] >> bill: and the other -- on the middle east, right -- >> yes. >> bill: where he says the president's policy is all wrong. >> these are the neo-cons. he postures on this. he acts strong acts tough, says he wants a two-state solution here. but that is not what he told his done no, sir. he says he doesn't really know
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how to solve the middle east problem, when we quote should kick the ball down the field and hope that ultimately somehow something should happen and resolve it. >> bill: that's what he told his donors behind closed doors. >> yes, and then in public he pretends he has some kind of solution. appearing tough is not a strategy. there was very it will until his speech that offered new strategic direction for the country. >> bill: you know what it really was, i think, it was not leadership, it was salesmanship as the president said. >> yes. >> bill: a bunch of platitudes but in the end, when you look at it, he is not offering anything new or that much different. >> yes. >> bill: all right. joe great to have you in studio
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with us. also check out the "new york times" ripping mitt romney in their editorial this morning. we'll be right back. >> announcer: this is the "bill press show." ♪ how are you ever going to solve the problem if you don't look at all of the pieces? >>tv and radio talk show host stephanie miller rounds out current's morning news block. >>you're welcome current tv audience for the visual candy. >>sharp tongue, quick whit and above all, politically direct. >>you just think there is no low they won't go to. oh, no. if al gore's watching today...
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>> announcer: this is the "bill press show." >> bill: it is tuesday october 9th. thanks for being a part of the program here. we go from ashville to arizona yes, indeed. friday night going to be in ashville again i love ashville the paris of the south. so if you are anywhere within striking distance of ashville come out and join me and all of
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the crowd from 880 the revolution, at the avenue m restaurant. the right after the vice presidential debate so i'll have a good political townhall and have copies of my book "the obama hate machine." arizona is the next segment of the show. this is meet the candidates week on "full court press." and our candidate of the day is kristin cinema from arizona's ninth congressional district. one that nancy pelosi feels very good about picking up a democratic seat. right now we want to talk the importance of lbgt issues. chris geidner covers lbgt issues for buzzfeed. chris, good to see you.
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>> good to see you bill. >> bill: thank you. let me ask first of all is there any big difference between mitt romney and barack obama on lbgt issues? >> they are starting off with a softballball. i appreciate that. >> bill: i want to tell you why i asked the question. the other night i met a gay man who was talking about how great romney was in the debate and he is going to support mitt romney. and i thought you are like a chicken voting for colonel sanders. >> there certainly are republicans who are gay, and support mitt romney's candidacy. i think that on many of the markers that have been laid down by lbgt groups there is some -- some stark differences. obviously starting with marriage
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equality. the president came out in support of marriage equality. and the administration has endorsed the respect for marriage act, which would repeal doma. and on all three of those points mitt romney has said he is the opposite. he has criticized the administration's decision to stop defending doma he doesn't support the repeal and said that he opposes marriage equality believes he said in a recent debate that he believes there should be some recognition or protections for same -- loving same-sex couples, which was an interesting acknowledgment to -- to acknowledge that couples can be -- can be loving couples and yet still hold out that there should be a different system. >> bill: where is mitt romney on don't ask don't tell?
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>> mitt romney has not said that he would reinstate it. >> bill: unlike rick santorum. >> right. and paul ryan his running mate obviously, said that he believed that it was a done issue, and we had to -- it was time to move on. >> bill: yeah. >> there was some language in the party platform that people like elaine donnelly who had been one of the -- you are familiar with her -- her work? >> bill: oh god, yes. >> she had certainly praised certain language in the platform that talked about reassessing military policies, and that military policy personnel policy shouldn't be experimentation. >> bill: yeah. >> but at this point, you have got more than a year of
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implementation of repeal. at that point you have a military structure. the same reasons why back in '93 then president clinton had difficulties with turning it over because the military is a large immovable object. >> bill: right. to be honest both you and i -- particularly you, i have been there when you have gone after robert gibbs and jay carney and the president not moving fast enough on some lbgt issues. so is the president a little late to the feast here? >> there were several governors, including andrew cuomo of new york and governor o'malley in maryland who were front and center on the marriage issue before the president, but -- and
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there are other issues. you look at workplace protections. >> bill: that's the one that i remember. >> 111th congress worked on getting don't ask don't tell passed. there were a lot of people who also wanted in addition to that repeal wanted to see congress act on the employment discrimination act and although the administration had endorsed that bill there was no real push beyond -- the understanding was you can get one basically, and so we're now in a split congress where there's no movement for it. so had there been quicker movement back then it's possible we would have already had that passed. >> bill: one thing i found very interesting. i think i saw it on your site, in fact you wrote the article, that the log cabin group, which is the log cabin is the
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republican caucus if you will right? organization? >> uh-huh. >> bill: they have not endorsed mitt romney. is that -- is that their way of saying, our party is bad on our issues? >> well the log cabin has twice declined to endorse their presidential candidate. back in 1992 when there was the famed pat buchanan social conservative rallying cry speech at the republican national convention when president george h.w. bush didn't refute that. log cabin issued a news release, saying because he had not refuted that, they with not endorsing him. and then in 2004 after president george w. bush came out in
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support of any federal marriage amendment to ban all same-sex marriages across the country, then leg cabin again issued a release. this time, however, they are trying to take this -- this techniquely wait and see approach. just yesterday when i asked them about where the process stands they say they are still in communications and that there -- there -- last week, they told me that their endorsement is something that has to be earned and that they haven't made a decision about it, but i think you are getting at the point which is that if it's less than a month before the election and you haven't announced that you support your party's candidate, you're -- that is making a statement in and of itself. >> bill: it's a pretty powerful statement. >> yeah, and i think the group american bridge and courage campaign really took ahold of
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that, and yesterday released a web video that was more poking than anything, i think in political terms. it featured david barack on tv, who is for media matters but also -- >> bill: american bridge -- >> american bridge super pac saying thank you to log cabin for not endorsing mitt romney. which obviously they were aware that the position is we haven't taken a position yet. and it was a good political way of pushing log cabin's in between position on a presidential race into the spotlight. >> bill: and for the record i guess if we would call them the main stream lgbt organizations, you mentioned several, right, but they have endorsed president
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obama? >> hrc has endorsed president obama. they did so more than a year ago -- more than -- before the respect nominee was even selected, which caused some questions at the time. >> bill: yeah. but it looks like they -- on the issues, just dealing with the issues that they made the right choice -- >> log cabin hasn't endorsed but go proud who is the sort of more right-wing of the two gay organizations did endorse mitt romney, and they held an event last night, with bay buchanan. i'll let you just sit with that one. >> bill: i'm speechless that she is the one that they would choose to speak out for mitt romney on to the lgbt community? >> i'm not sure if she is the liaison -- go proud has a proud
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history of finding the name that -- they are the group that had ann coulter speak to them. they are nothing, if not headline grabbing. [ laughter ] >> bill: chris good to see you my friend. you can follow chris at buzzfeed, buzzfeed.com or follow him on twitter. @chris geithner. thanks for coming in. >> thank you. >> bill: and we'll talk to kristen cinema coming up next. >> announcer: this is the "bill press show." (vo) always outspoken, now unleashed. joy behar. >> on my next show, robert klein can't stop his leg, gilbert gottfried can't stop his mouth and i can't stop laughing long enough to ask a question.
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(vo) john fugelsang sees what happens. >> you know, blaming this economy on barack obama is kinda like blaming your hangover on >> i'm not sure if she is the buzzfeed, buzzfeed.com or follow the guy making breakfast. i like mitt romney but i'm sorry. they guy has flipped more than a crack house mattress. this campaign has become so toxic, beverly hills housewives are now injecting it into their foreheads. (vo) so current gave him a weekly show. >> i love romney's debate style, but i tell you, if i could be that stiff for 90 minutes, i'd ... (vo) we probably won't regret it. ♪
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>> announcer: this is the "full court press," the "bill press show," live on your radio, and on current tv. >> bill: all right tuesday october 9th. this is meet the candidates week on "full court press." we keep stressing that the presidential campaign is not all with have to be working on, we have to make sure we hold on to and increase control of the senate, and get the house back. one of the most important house seats in the country is in arizona. the democratic candidate there, endorsed by emily's list. she is a member of both houses of the arizona legislature.
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kyrsten sinema is joining shut in >> thank you, bill. >> bill: tell us about the district. >> it is an urban and suburban district, making up all of tempe, and then all of [ inaudible ] and parts of chandler and mesa which are suburbs. but what the district unique bill is it is evenly split between democrats, independents, and republicans and makes it is true picture of what and arizona is as a whole. >> bill: so the registration is roughly one-third, one-third, one-third. >> that's correct. >> bill: what are the issues that you find people in your district, you know, are talk about or concerned about?
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>> first and foremost the residents are concerned about jobs. those who have jobs are concerned about keeping them. and those that don't have jobs are concerned about getting them. and as you and i both know it's really tough economically for familiar list right now. and folks in the middle class are struggling each day to make ends meet. and that's what they are really focused on. >> bill: which is the issue that i think most americans are focusing on today and the number one issue in this presidential election. the issue of education came up last week several times in the debate. i know this is an issue as a state legislature that you have worked a lot on. >> it is the arizona state legislature sadly is known for being the state that has cut education the most the deeper per capita over the last several
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years, so arizona schools are struggling, and i teach at arizona state university -- >> bill: oh, wow. >> i have been teaching there for ten years now. before they was a social worker at an elementary school. so this is a really important issue for me. my own story, i think informs why it is important to me. i was homeless when i was a kid, and it was through public education, pell grants academic scholarships that i was able to make it to the middle class and in arizona we're struggling to keep that high-quality education system, and this is a top issue in our race. my opponent wants to eliminate the department of education which would get rid of pell grants. it would eliminate after ford loans, work study program withes, and cut close to a billion dollars of funding from arizona schools. $739 million a year from arizona
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schools. and that's his plan. my plan of course is to strengthen education, so that kids like me can have a shot to make it to the middle class. >> bill: that old thing about getting rid of the department of education is such a tired old republican talking point. in fact a lot of republicans have given up on it. obviously not all of them have we're talking with kyrsten sinema, i'm going to tell it for you, because it's an unusual spelling. we'll have a link on our website. it's k-y-r-s-t-en s-i-n-e-m-a. >> it's kyr. >> bill: there you go -- >> we have it on our website.
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>> yeah it's my [ inaudible ] heritage that's hard to spell. the polls are looking really good. i'm polling about 5% ahead of my opponent right now. amongst independents i'm polling 8% ahead. and that's what is most important because independents will decide the outcome of this election. >> bill: absolutely. well, you obviously have done a great job, a strong campaign. i heard nancy pelosi a couple of weeks ago, she cited your race as one of the ones she is most excited about. we know it's still a lot of work to go, so we'll send whatever help we can your way. check out our website at billpressshow.com. thank you. >> thank you, bill. >> bill: i'll be back with the parting shot.
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